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  FOX News    Americas Newsroom    News/Business. Bill Hemmer, Martha  
   MacCallum. News coverage and discussion. New.  

    September 8, 2010
    9:00 - 11:00am EDT  

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but obviously there is enough evidence to prove that that took place. you hate to see that hpen to anybody. >> brian: we'll be here on the after the show show. in the meantime, we'll see you back here tomorrow. bill: thank you guys and good morning, everybody, 9:00 in new york and major battle shaping up between congress and the white house, economy, issue number one, just as the president goes back to ohio, republican leaders already saying that his proposals to jump start the economy will not pass. good morning, everybody, i'm bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom". good to see you! martha: good to be here. first day of school yesterday morning, but boy is there a lot to talk about. things are hopping, folks. i'm martha maccallum, good to have you with us this morning. midterm elections are two months away and the president is expected to say that the bush tax cuts will be extended for some but not for all americans. bill: also martha is former
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budget director who was in the job a few months ago who said this is not a good idea, ready for a stalemate are new what's new. stuart varney, fox business network, host of varney & company. first the news, what do we expect to hear on the economy? >> today the president goes to cleveland, he is going to be pushing for a $200 billion tax credit plan, part of the overall stimulus program, he's going to get personal, he's going to talk about his own financial struggles, to use that as a way to leverage off on the economy front. that's what's going to happen today, bill. you mentioned stalemate there, and that's exactly what we've got. in a nutshell, if you look at overall policy, you do have stalemate. here's what you've got: you've got the president, he wants to spend, republicans and some democrats do not. the president wants to tax, republicans and some democrats do not. so you've got stalemate on the issue of stimulus and taxes. that's where we are now.
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bill: peter orszag was budget director for a year and a half at the white house, he's now left that job behind, i think it was two months ago when he left, earlier part of this summer. he writes in the "new york times" with regard to these tax cuts, the answer that over the medium term the tax cuts are not affordable, yet no one wants to make an already stagnating job market worse over the next year or two which is exactly what would happen if the tax cuts expire as planned. that's the former budget director, in direct disagreement with the president. >> it's remarkable stuff, it's a revolt on the part of some democrats and former members of the administration over this issue of taxes. there's an absolute split here on taxes and stimulus. what peter orszag is talking about there is look, if you go ahead and raise taxes on successful and wealthy people come january 1st, you hurt the economy. that's exactly what president obama wants to do. if you want to shift -- any kind of shift on this issue of taxes, you've got to have
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one side or the other move on bedrock principles. raising taxes on the rich is a bedrock principle of president obama. spending more money is a bedrock principle of president obama. some democrats and all republicans are in the exact opposite direction. so if there's any deal here, one side has to give on basic principles. bill: 55 days to go before mid terms, you wonder what can change or whether everything is locked in stone at the moment. we'll see. stuart varney, fbn, check him out, every day. here's martha. martha: the white house is finding itself in a debate over a lot of things and one of them is who the economy is hurting the most. according to white house press secretary robert gibbs, it is not the rich. listen to this: >> 250,000, $400,000, $600,000, or $800,000 in this economy, you're not putting off the purchase of -- there's not a great crush on or pull back in the consumer demand.
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this economy is not hurting people that make $800,000 a year. it's hurting families that are making $40,000. martha: that tphaoeg aves the idea about many of those people being small business owners. here's a look at how this will boil down. at the end of the year the bush tax cuts which were enacted in ''01 and '03 will expire, democrats want to extend the tax cuts to those making less than $200,000 couples making less than $250,000 a year. republicans wanted to extend those tax cuts for everybody, believing that was the way to get small businesses hiring again and to give them the encouragement to make those investments in the future. as for the cost, a tax cut extension, if you look at it just on that basis, over all income levels, would cost more than $3 trillion over the next ten years. that doesn't take into account what money may be stimulated by business growth if those companies look at their bottom line and said well, we're going to be keeping this money. bill: which we saw in the late '90s and boy, did we
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wipe out our decifit in a big time. hello cleveland, folks, president obama going back to ohio today where he'll make his second biggest proposal this week. house minority lead john boehner on abc, on planning the proposals and the look at the possible republican takeover in november. here's from john boehner two hours ago: >> certainly george it's possible. we've got a steep hill to climb, we've got a lot of work to do, but when i travel the country and i travel my distinct -- district, i've never seen the american people were engaged in this election and any election of any lifetime. and so we've got a lot of work to do. that's our goal, though, to earn back the majority so we can renew our effort to drive for a smaller, less costly and more accountable government in washington, d.c. bill: that's minority leader earlier today and our fox senior political correspondent carl cameron is in ohio. carl has been camped out in ohio for a week now, a state heart hit by the economy. it is by large measure the
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bellwether state in america. we'll check in with carl in "america's newsroom". martha: defeated in the alaska primary, but it looks like that may not be the end of candidate lisa murkowski, new reports that senator mur murkowski has met with libertarian party candidate discussing the possibly that -- possibility that she replace him on the ballot. however, they have other things in mind, they rejected that idea once before and there's also talk now she could be a write-in candidate. that was video from when she said it was over. perhaps not. mur cow see narrowly lost the republican primary to sarah palin-backed candidate joe miller. bill: former presidential candidate mitt romney now said to be going back to iowa. that will certainly get headlines, the second visit to the state since the disappointing showing in the caucus of 2008, that is fueling report that -- reports that he might run in 2012. the official reason? we'll hear from the romney
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campaign. martha: a fox news alert, no end in sight to the fire crews who are battling those flames near boulder, colorado, a raging wildfire, burning out of control, nearly 100 structures have been burned in these fires. not sure how many are homes. some of them may be multiple structures on some properties. it's going to be days before evacuees are allowed back in to check out the damage. >> you know, part of you wants to just drive up and go see your house. it's like -- it's interesting, you want to go home. you know, you want to go home and you can't go home. >> all right. it's just -- my family is safe, you know. at this point, the uncertainty is tough because you don't know if -- am i building a new house or cleaning my house. martha: boy, well, that fire broke out in a 4-mile canyon northwest of pwoulder, quickly spread, forcing thousands in the area from their homes. alicia acuna is live in boulder, colorado.
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weather, expected to be a challenge again today for these firefighters, right? >> reporter: absolutely, martha. forecasters are saying that we should have more humidity today and that there's a system coming in that could possibly bring in some rain but with that system, first comes wind, and that could definitely make things much wore challenging and whip things up for firefighters. i want to show you where exactly we are in conjunction to the fire. it's burning beyond that ridge, that's 4-5 miles back from where i'm standing. we're at the command center, where we receive the updates on a daily basis here in the city of boulder, but as you can see, the fire is burning very closely to where we're standing. ninety-two structures, mostly homes, according to authorities, have burned so far, and even though there are burned out areas, it's far too dangerous, officials say, to let anyone back in because they have downed power lines. it's not a steady situation back there. they say it could be a couple of days before they're able to let anyone back in to see whether or not they've lost a home.
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firefighters were working overnight. this is now a 24-hour fight. martha: you see how badly those people want to get tpwhabg and look at what's going on up there. anyone know what caused this fire, how it started? >> fire investigators are still back there, where they believe the source of the fire is, and some of the initial reports, according to the boulder county sheriff, are that a back backed into a propane tank and that it ignited into a tree. this blaze is so -- has so far burned about 7100 acres. keep in mind, that's more than twice what it was yesterday when we were reporting from here. and some people still don't know whether or not they have something to return to. three thousand people have been displaced. take a listen: >> the most tragic story, and at the same time, probably most heroic story oust there, is i think you heard that at least nine firefighters, while actively fighting the fire, lost their homes. and that's a testament to the commitment and the bravery and the dedication
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of the folks, while they're out saving someone else's home, their home is burning down. >> reporter: this is the number one fire priority in the country, and now 7-10 states are sending in their resources as well, martha. martha: wow, boy, what a story about those firefighters losing their own homes. alicia, thank you and good luck to all of them out there who are braving that fire. hope they get a better handle on things, upper hand on it i should say. if you're in that area and you can safely take pictures of the wildfire, we would love to hear from you, send those and your video if you have it, you report, foxnews.com, you know where it goes, that is you, the letter u, include a description of what we're looking at. we're going to get some of those pictures and video on the air. a very tough situation in boulder, colorado. bill: it's tough, but when you see the pictures of something burning, your heart really goes out to them. martha: and that woman saying i just want to get home, look at it, see what's going on. bill: the cost of health care is rising already. why the big health insurance companies say they must
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raise your price now. so who then is campaigning for health care now? you'll be surprised to find out. we'll check in on that. martha: we all know this face by now, he is the controversial figure behind the mosque that is planned for near ground zero and now we are hearing from the imam himself. he says he will go forward with his plan, despite the opposition. bill: say goodbye to this vacation. this is a cruise you do not want to be on. straight from the port to the hospital. martha: wait until you see this.
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bill: we're now hearing from the imam extensively behind a ground zero mosque, speaking in a "new york times" op-ed piece, feisal rauf saying they are going ahead with construction, he writes we have been awed by how inflamed and emotional the community center has
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become, the level of attention reflects the degree to which people care about the american values under debate. recognition of the rights of others, tolerance, and freedom of worship. let's talk about that with father jonathan moore, with me, a fox news contributor. good morning to you. you practice downtown, you work downtown. on record, i think you support this, right? you're okay with this idea? >> you know what, i'm very happy for this step of dialogue and respect. at first, i was definitely saying that this is a moment in which the muslim community can stop and reflect on the sensibilities of the 9/11 families. bill: what a grand idea that might have been. >> and maybe think about a new place or at least have the dialogue. now, what i see in this op-ed piece is rational, level-headed discussion. we're a long way away from that mosque being built. this is an important step. bill: got it. let's talk about it. because this is what he wrote, in part on the screen, i am very sensitive to feelings of the families of the victims of 9/11, as are my fellow leaders in
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many faiths. we will accordingly seek the support of those families and the support of our vibrant tphaeubgd as we consider the ultimate plans for the community center. he continues. our objective has always been to make this a center for unification and healing. i think it sounds fine, okay? but that's all he says about the families. >> that's about as close as he comes to explaining why he chose this site. >> right. you're right. bill: that's the question everybody wants, why did you choose this site. >> let's analyze the piece itself. he says three things. one is it's an area for inter faith and one, an area for christians and jews to pray. whenever have you seen that in a mosque? bill: how often do you go to a mosque to pray? >> the fact that they're willing to do that and say that to the muslim community, they're willing to have an area for catholic, christians, jews to pray, that's a step. that's a step. number two -- >> bill: how many jews on roshashan will go to a
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mosque or catholic church? >> and where he shows where all the money is coming from, that's a big step. thirdly, there's going to be a memorial for 9/11. i one have been rather critical of the fact that they're doing it in this place, but this dialogue is a good step. they're doing things that are not making a lot of muds limbs in other parts of the world happy. bill: here's the point, restricting religious freedom is a no-no in this country. got that. >> we have electroprotect that. bill: where is the responsibility of the religious? >> that is exactly the right. with every right comes obligations and responsibilities and one of those is respect. these are nice words in his op-ed and nice words are good. they need to be followed up with good action. bill: more words from "the new york times" piece, the wonderful outpouring of support undermines the ability of antiamerican radicals who recruit young impressionable muslims that falsely claim that america per see cuties america for their faith. that's a great point. talks about tolerance, that i mentioned before. it could also be the first stop for a radical jihadist
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who comes to america who wants to go pray. >> that's right. we need to follow you and make sure that actions follow good words. let me say, however, that there needs to be also an explanation on his part to did not this -- continue this dialogue of why he said the rather, let's say, insightful words that were rather tough against america. number two -- >> bill: that was after 9/11, when the nerves were even more raw than today. >> secondly, an explanation, as you said, of why they decided it needs nobody that spot. that wasn't in this op-ed piece. those are two things that could continue this dialogue and move it forward. why those words and, two, why that site. bill: one final point. i don't think anyone can lose sight of the families. they are scared forever. and we must always consider their feelings. >> i'm with you. bill: first. >> but this is a great conversation, this is an important step, the dialogue, without a doubt. he's also said he's been meeting with other religious leaders. that's another step. these are good steps. it's a long process. but good steps. bill: it's your
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neighborhood, it's part my neighborhood, too. and we'll see where it goes from here. the op-ed is out today, you can read it, make up your own mind about how you feel today. thank you father, nice chatting with you. jonathan morris. martha: we have new insights into one of the darkest days of the bush 43 white house, which we were just talking about. we're going to tell you why condoleezza rice actually raised her voice and even hung up on the president on september 11th. bill: fresh debate over illegal immigration, the controversial proposal that caused an uproar at a city council meeting. we'll let you know how this turned out.
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bill: a houston suburb step
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going the illegal immigration debate, city leaders outside houston deciding not to pursue laws that would ban illegals from running properties and business necessary their own, they struck down the proposal making english the official language, that city drawing in supporters and opponents of the plan. here's what happened last night there: >> those people are illegal and they are people. bill: well, one city councilman says it would not serve the city well to spend time and money on such laws. martha: new details this morning on what may have actually led to that deadly explosion aboard the deepwater horizon rig in the gulf of mexico. bp is just releasing its own internal investigation of this accident. kris gutierrez has been getting into all of this in new orleans. kris, what exactly is bp saying they determined went wrong down there?
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>> reporter: martha, we should point out it's taken bp nearly five months to issue its findings and in this 200 plus page report, bp does take some of the blame, but the oil giant is also pointing fingers. for example, bp says the cement that was used on this well failed to keep the hydrocarbons within the reservoir, the hydrocarbons, of course, the natural gases, and pointing out that failure, bp is implicating halliburton, the company that set the cement. bp is also saying that the pressure tests to determine the well's stability were misread not only by bp employees but also by transocean employees. remember, transocean owns the deepwater horizon rig that sank, the bp folks were just leasing that rig. also, bp is saying that over a 40-minute period or so the transocean employees failed to recognize and react to those hydrocarbons and in doing so, when they actually did, they say that key pieces of equipment like the blowout preventer which was manufactured by a company, cameron international,
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failed to operate properly. again, we should point out, this is just bp's account of what went wrong back on april 20th. we're sure to hear from both halliburton, transocean and others on their accounts in the coming days, if not sooner, martha. martha: i bet the lawyers are all over these document, they're going to be very careful about what they take blame for in any of this. the oil thank goodness is no longer leaking into the ocean but there is still oil out there, so where do things stand with all of this, kris? >> remember admiral thad allen, with the navy, who is in charge of the operation down here, he is still saying he wants to continue with the drilling of the two relief wells. they should be brought on line hopefully within the next two weeks but as you mentioned, no oil has leaked in the gulf since mid july. martha: thank you kris. bill: emergency responders were passing handwritten notes after a terror attack here in the u.s. communication lines were down. that was nine years ago this september. now new reports that it's not gotten better since.
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why is that and what happens when and if we face another attack? we're on that. martha: that is quite a story. how about this, senate minority leader harry reid, majority leader, no stranger to the controversial comments about the economy, remember this? >> i have met with people while i was home, dealing with domestic abuse. it has gotten out of hand. why? men don't have jobs. martha: remember that interesting analysis? in a moment, wait until you hear what he said this time.
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bill: 9:30 in new york, some of the top stories making headlines this hour, 22 people arrested after protoasts at a police officer's fatal shooting of a guatemalan immigrant in south los angeles, the suspect shot to death while wielding a knife. at least 300 protestors threw rocks and bottles at the officers' police station. an investigation into the incident is underway. secretary of state hillary clinton defending the administration's approach to foreign policy, saying the u.s. must meet this new american moment to exercise leadership abroad, also, fierce winds push thrug detroit, michigan, fire officials saying the flames swept through at least two dozen homes, wind gusts knocking out power to hundreds of thousands of customers. so far, no reports of injuries there. detroit, michigan. with kids back in school this week, we're taking a look at some of the creative ways to teach kids
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effectively with less money, for example, new york spends more money in public school education than any other state, but test scores don't always reflect that. so what's the winning formula for success? rick leventhal in our newsroom in new york with more on that. what did you find rick? good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, bill. on the first day of class for public school kids in new york city, this is something they might learn in math class, if you spend more you get more, but when it comes to public education that's not necessarily the case. in the 2007-2008 school year, that's the most recent data released by the census department, new york state led the nation in spending per pupil, new york was first, alaska, new jersey, vermont, rounding out the top five, new york spending $17,000 per pupil. you compare that with the national average, which is just over $10,000 per student, and even though new york spent the most, its student test results were far from the top, finishing 25th, 26th, as low as 32nd in reading and math. >> we're failing students and we're failing the
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taxpayers simultaneously. we are taxing the taxpayers more than than any other state for education, yet we're only managing to achieve average outcomes. i'd say that's bad for everybody. >> reporter: but some new york school kids are scoring much higher for far less money, they attend lar hem success academy, a series of charter schools in manhattan, they're public schools run like private schools, they choose kids through a lottery and focus on fundamentals like reading and writing and they get results. they have longer school days and longer school years and the kids wind up scoring much higher. we reached out the -- to the new york state commissioner for comment on this story, why the state spends top dollar for average returns and bill, so far, they haven't responded to our calls or e-mails. we're waiting for them to get backtous. bill: we're waiting with you, rick. thank you. rick leventhal in our newsroom in new york. martha: as we get ready to mark nine years since september 11th, we're learning more about what was happening in the white house in the hours after the attacks.
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former secretary of state condoleezza rice, national security adviser at the time, says she argued with president bush on the phone that day, when he said that he wanted to fly back to the white house immediately. you'll recall the president was visiting a school in florida, he was listen to go children read when his aide, andy card, approached the president and informed him america is under attack. we all remember that moment that we're watching on that video. here's how secretary rice remembers the conversation with the president. i said tom, quote, in a raised quote, and i have never raised my voice with the president before, i said, quote, you cannot come back here. i hung up. the president was quite annoyed with me, she says, to say the least. and we're going to be revisiting a lot about those days in the coming days here at fox news channel. meanwhile, as is very appropriate to this discussion, the government communications systems that day were failing, and president bush had to speak on an unsecured line to washington. condoleezza rice also says this bunker where vice president cheney was
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sheltered had begun to run out of air and many administration employees had to leave that area. so as i said, it's been nine years since that horrible, horrible day, and some of the communications breakdown problems that occurred after the world trade center attack has still not been resolved. firefighters and police officers were not able to speak to each other over the radio that morning, as well. remember, many experts say a better system that would work in a like situation is still many years away. if you can believe it. corey powell is editor in chief of discover magazine. welcome, good to have you here. >> good to be here. martha: how can it possibly be that $7 billion in taxpayer money has been spent to make sure that in a disaster, a nuclear disaster or a disaster like this one, at least people can talk to each other? >> right. what's going on here is you have a clash of standards, fundamentally underneath that you have a clash of egos. you have different ideas about what public safety radio system should look
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like. i think everybody understands we know how to make a radio, we know how to go to radioshack and basically buy the things you need, but the people who controlled the air waves and the fire departments, the police department, the public security groups, have very different ideas about how you should do that. the ftc says hey, commercial industry does this already, let's basically partner with them, let's, you know, kind of split up the air waves, give some of it to the private carriers, and you know, figure out a way to do this in a relatively affordable way. on the other side you have the security agency saying no, we want the perfect system, you know, this is the time to get it right, doesn't matter how much it costs, doesn't matter how long it takes, we're going to get it. martha: i was so shocked by this. and i don't want to sound like i'm mad at you, or i'm snapping about this, but it is so incredible, this is the greatest country in the world, we have the most incredible access to technology andure telling me there's not one frequency
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that we can guarantee will be able to stay intact through a disaster that would allow people to talk to each other? if something were to happy in this city or a city across america in the coming weeks and we heard again that they couldn't talk to each other and help people, can you imagine the outrage after the money that's been spent? >> right, and what's been happening is locally, within new york city, for instance, the agencies have figured out a way to work together. martha: so they would be able to? >> in new york city. but then let's say, you know, help comes in from other parts of the country, you know, you have fema coming in, and other organizations come in, they might -- they might not be able to talk and passing around handwritten notes and cell phones. there's not a unified system. martha: why can't the ftc say this is the band that it will operate on, let's auction it out to the top three technology companies in this country and whoever has the best plan wins this project? >> basically that's what the ftc is proposing. there are a lot of security groups on the other side who don't want to do that, they
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don't want commercial interests involved at all martha: because they're afraid it's a security risk? >> because they want the biggest and best that money can buy. martha: haven't they already proved they can't do it? they've failed. essentially they've failed. we're now nine years later so they've failed and shouldn't they turn it over to someone else? >> this is a story that comes up again and again in security. you look at what happens in airport security. you know, we have this idea that you look at every single person, you pat down every person and you pat down grandmothers because you want to be very careful that you're looking at every single person. well, you know that there's a simple and more targeted way to do it. same thing here, you know, in the search -- >> martha: god help us if anything happens, and we prove that these people have been working on it this long and haven't been able to do it. it just seems impossible in this country. so good to bring it to our attention. corey powell, thank you very much. >> yes. martha: let's hope people that can do something about it are listening and they'll get on it. >> there is a solution out
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there. it's a matter of will. bill: there are a lot of these stories unfortunately. the book party is off, at least for now. former british prime minister tony blair postponing a party in london to celebrate his new book due to security threats. blair's office saying they do not want to put guests through unpleasant consequences. this weekend a blair book signing was interrupted by proseses in ireland, they threw shoes and plastic bottles at him. he was not hurt. bill he probably sold a lot more books on the adversity he got from that. tony blair continues in great britain. martha: let's get a look at the markets this morning. a nice open, the dow closed down 106 points yesterday. want to keep an eye on the action throughout the show, with all the talk of the tax cuts and whether or not they will expire for everybody. dow up 41 points right now, 10383. bill: we are going to revisit health care in a moment. the big overall was supposed
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to rape in costs for you the consumer but now it looks like many of us might be paying more in only weeks' time. why is that? martha: and the senate majority leader, harry reid, at it again. a new message on unemployment and who he's blaming now for the problem. bill: hardly a fantastic voyage, huh? this wasn't the love boat, folks! i mean, it was far from it. martha: hold on to your seat. bill: these folks were hammered by a story. you'll see that. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> sailing. >> ♪ >> ♪ bill: here's a story
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for you, several health insurers now blaming the the new health care law for some oncoming hikes in premiums. some of these providers are asking now for increases of maybe 1 percent up to 9 percent. meanwhile as we head into
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election season many democrats are now distancing themselves from the campaign that hinges on the health care overhaul. chris stierwalt, fox news digital politics editor, all things tech, good forge to you. >> good morning. bill: i'm going to get to the candidates in a moment but what are the health care companies saying about this? >> what the health care companies are saying, they have to build in additional cost because their costs are going to go up as the president's national health care program rolls out over the next couple of years. bill: we were told costs were going to go down, why would they be going up? >> bill, it's complicated, right? you know that the costs were going to go down for -- the explanation, anyway, was the costs were going to go down for some people but that doesn't mean it's going to go down for everybody and we also know that in the plan insurance companies were targeted for sharing and shipping -- shifting some of the costs in this package. remember, only a half a trillion of the more than $1 trillion cost in this legislation came from cuts to existing programs like
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medicare. so what's going to have to happen is the money is going to come from some place, insurance companies think it's going to come if them so they're going to goat it from you. bill: this is aetna, blue cross and blue shield, big insurance companies, they affect thousands if not millions of americans every day, and this is the debate. are they bilking consumers or are they just trying to conduct what they would consider fair business? >> well, i'll say this, i know politics, and i know that if insurance companies had to run for office, they probably wouldn't get elected. people are not generally big fans of having to pay big premiums to insurance companies. the question politically right now is will voters who get notices next month or the month after, before the election, that say that their premiums are going to go up, are they going to be upset with democrats who pass this legislation. that's the big question. the $64,000 question or maybe the 64 house seat question is will people connect their increase in rates with what democrats
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did in march in passing obamacare. bill: what republicans will say is they want to repeal obamacare, rasmussen has a poll, 56 percent favor repealing national health care alone. that's a tall mountain to climb, perhaps they can do it, maybe not, but we'll see down the road on that. how are democratic politicians reacting now on the trail? are they talking about this or is this something that's under the cover? >> it would be a very blue district to say the least where democrats were talking about the national health care program. it's just not something -- it doesn't poll well, it's not something that voters want to hear about. and right now, there's a concern among democrats, not just that these premium hikes are coming in and massachusetts going to -- that's going to stoke some of that danger we've seen before about the health care program, but also, the fact that liberal groups are going out to try to sell the health care plan, they're spending a couple million dollars right now to get out there and put ads on television and do a public
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awareness campaign. bill: that's a lot of money. that's the health information center, right? we called them, by the way, we invited them to come on our program. it's free publicity, for crying out loud. they took a pass. why would they do that? >> well, i don't know why they did it but i know that probably a lot of democrats are glad that they did, because it is not an issue that democratic incumbents, whether they voted for the legislation or not, want to talk about this year because it is sort of the worst branding point for the party. bill: you think the candidates would be happy to pass on that? >> i think the candidates would be happy to pass on it because i think they're probably upset that this ad campaign is rolling out, that one democratic strategist i talked to basically said this, the less said, the better when it comes to obamacare this election cycle and they're not happy that anybody is really bringing it up or talking about it. bill: i mentioned you are the head of digital for us, that means you have a big job in terms of connecting america online. we have a new app today for your iphone or your ipad, you can find it by going to
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the app store on your iphone, hey, i -- hang on, i'll get it here. there it is, fox news channel. go to the app store, and you punch up america's elections hq, is that right, chris? >> that's where you'll get it, get the exclusive content, that's where you'll get race trackers, that's where you're going to find everything you need, day in, day out, between now and election day to know what's going on, who's going to win, who's going to lose, what are the polls telling you, and we think most importantly, the kind of analysis that gets through the daily spin cycle and gets you down to what you really need to know. bill: you're going to be updateing this 24 hours a day, right? you're not going to sleep until it's done! >> i'm going to be awful tired, bill. but fortunately, we have some really good people here, and we're putting together a really nice package and our goal is every morning, especially, when you get up and you go to the app, america's election hq, we've got our power play there, which is
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my daily analysis and a bunch of tidbits that are going to make you a more informed, better voter and help you keep your head above water in this sort of flood of information. bill: as you know, chris, it's crunch time. we have 55 days to go. some of these races will change literally overnight. so we'll check it out every morning we wake up. that's the first place we will go on our app. >> much obliged. thank you. bill: if you have an iphone, you can have up to date information, on all the races at your fingertips. fox is launching that app today. go to the app store on your iphone or your ipad, search america's election headquarters. america's election hq. you'll be able to find it there, the extremelineo stprao*el loin on information up to election day. and after that, too, as a matter of fact. what do you think, maccallum? martha: that's cool, i like it. thanks to chris stierwalt, awesome. good job. you know what, here's a big question today, inside political circles. is a shake-up coming the a the white house?
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could the president's righthand man be leaving to pursue his dream job? allan combs is going to -- allan coombs is going to ware in on that. bill: how about the odds of surviving this, these passengers, holding on to dear life. i mean, this cruise liner rocked right and left and right and left and you will see them slide back and forth in minutes. some seriously bad weather, at least 48 went to the hospital. how bad was it? and how did it end? we'll tell you in a few moments here.
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bill: so the fbi now investigating a threat on a plane landing at los angeles last night, lax, hundreds of passengers and the crew questioned about that incident. the plane came out of thailand, the fbi said it did not find any explosives
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on board but someone sprawled a bomb threat on a bathroom mirror, flight 794. any time you sprawl a bomb threat on board a plane you're going to get attention. the plane landed safely out of bangkok, thailand. no arrests have been made. martha: we have been showing you this video this morning, horror, really, on the high seas. closed circuit tv cameras captured this. look at the furniture rolling across the floor in this situation. they were rocking and rolling, about 400 miles off the coast ofny swraul and, 42 people were hurt, the waves were so powerful it hit the fifth deck of this aegs liner. our desk is cruising attorney charles lipton. good morning to you. >> good morning. martha: boy, this video is quite something. talk to us about what causes this and what kind of warning you have when you're captaining a ship like this. >> unfortunately --
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fortunately it's extremely rare but every so often there's a rogue wave in the ocean that's totally unpredictable that can create chaos on the ship. martha: and you can't see it coming on the ship's radar, up on the bridge? >> oh, they can see it coming, but it's too late. martha: can't get away from it. >> not at all. but the ships are constructed in a way that they can survive those kind of waves. although the people on board certainly get shaken up, and can be injured. martha: as an attorney, when you look at these cases, are there things that the ship needs to do to tell people as soon as they become aware and see it on the radar, you on the bridge, put out ropes or things they can and should do? >> well, if it's a rogue wave, they have very little time and they really can't do much. if it's just bad weather, the ships are very good at avoiding bad weather, but if they can't, yes, they can put out rope, they can tie down things. martha: we all remember that one off the coast of spain
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back in march where we saw a similar situation, a huge wave. this is a video from that one. two people were killed in this situation. you know, it raises questions about safety on these cruise ships. >> well, yeah, the situation in the mediterranean had several ships that were badly damaged, and there were severe injuries and deaths. but once again, that's very, very rare. martha: very rare and very scary. charles lip -- lipcon, good to have you with us, appreciate your expertise on this video. bill: the first clip if you watch it, they go right, then left slowly, then they go back right a little faster, left a little faster than that, and like the last time across, they are just whipped across the chairs and all the tails. martha: people are rolling across the floor. bill billion the bartender in the near corner, those guys, they stayed right where they were. we're behind the bar and we're not moving! >> martha: everybody is going to need a strong one!
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>> bill: they will, on us, we're buying. what will president obama say about the bush tax cuts? he's back in ohio. we're waiting on how voters and washington reacts. carl cameron is in cleveland today. hello cleveland. martha: hot on the trail of a robbery suspect, going 100 miles an hour. what happened when the police finally caught up with this guy? you won't believe it. we'll be right back. no-cost replacement of wear and tear items and 24/7 roadside assistance. because when you create the most beautiful, fast cars on earth, you create an ownership experience to match.
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martha: he's the leader of the free world, of course and is looking to block, perhaps, a clean sweep in the buckeye state, president obama leaving the white house, headed another swing state of ohio today, democrats in the house and senate facing uphill battles, there on the road to november. trailing republicans in at least four of the key congressional races in ohio, right now and the government -- governor's mansion could also go g.o.p. according to the latest polls, how we
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start a rockin' brand new hour. bill: we missed you here, glad to have you back, the oval office, you know how critical an crucial the buckeye state can be every election cycle. martha: who better to go to now, carl cameron is live in ohio, and what should we expect from the president today, this is becoming a frequent visitor to that part of the world. >> reporter: this is his tenth visit to ohio since he has been president of the u.s. and the 6th visit this year alone. in the buckeye state could possibly be overemphasized in american politics in 2010 it would be hard to imagine now, the swing state has become symbolic of' bellwether battleground for decades and this is no exception and the president's speech is political an economic. he'll be reiterating a number of the proposals he already laid out, to try and spur the economy, they prefer not to refer to it as a stimulus package and we can show you a
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graphic, basically what the president will talk about today, he'll tay that he wants to extend some but not all of the bush tax cuts from '01 and '03 and will not renew them for the wealthiest 2-3% of americans and will propose $200 billion in small business tax cuts an ostensibly that line refers to 100% write off of plant and equipment expenses businesses could do and a $100 billion in tax credits, an expansion of what he budgeted for next year, to bring it up to 100 and it was in the budget for next year for $85 billion and $50 billion in infrastructure spending, things like the roads, runways and rails, the president has been talking about earlier this week and he'll talk about those economically and there are big questions of whether or not republicans will go along with any of it. the truth of the matter. martha: politically when talking about congress, right now, these proposals are essentially dead on arrival. and, there will be likely no spending of the appropriations bills passed this year, of any consequence and they'll use what
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are referred to as continuing resolutions to kick it into next year and tax reform, republicans are not likely to go lang and firmly believe the bush tax cuts should be extended in their entirety and what is short of that amounts to a tax hike in a weak economy that could be tossed back into a double dip recession. martha: and the administration will point out that some of these ideas, they feel, came from the republican side and republicans -- if they aren't willing to get together with them on this maybe they don't want to move the economy forward, is the argument on the other side. >> reporter: as it is unfolding here en cleveland, ohio is the home state to the house republican leader and john boehner last week in this city gave a very tough peach, accusing the obama administration of -- and democrats of tax and spend liberalism and will make the weak economy weaker and, mr. obama -- excuse me, john boehner and the republicans want to extend all the bush tax cuts and they argue, that in addition to extending the 2001 and 2003 bush tax cuts, all tax levels
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should be frozen, right now. and not allowed to go up at all, and, they argue, spending in the u.s. government should be cut to 2008 levels, a very, very aggressive pro-growth and firstcally conservative plan for republicans in contrast to what they say the president will propose today, more spending the country cannot afford. martha: we'll see what traction it gets in ohio and elsewhere, soon here, carl, thank you very much, carl cameron reporting from parma, ohio, today. bill: southern part of the state. martha: you know it well. bill: a sign the race for congress may be getting tighter, 55 days away from midterms and gallup finding democrats and republicans are tied at 46%, and a shift after five straight weeks with the republicans, hold a clear advantage in the area and the same poll, though, that he find republicans are maintaining 25-point advantage when it comes to voter enthusiasm, which, as you know, has a major impact. especially with midterms. martha: intensity, and speaking of the midterms, a new
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prediction from the man who managed president obama's '08 campaign. house senior advisor david plouffe saying he believes 70 house races and 15 senate races are in play, this fall, plus a couple of dozen top gubernatorial races that will be very interesting to watch as well, we know what happened in virginia and new jersey, and we'll see what happens in the gubernatorial races. bill: also from nevada, speaking of that, a senate majority leader, harry reid is in the fights of his life, facing republican candidates, and, the tea party favorite, sharron angle in that race, and, at this point, a virtual tie, and, most of the polling, the latest rasmussen report, statewide telephone survey, of likely voters, now, does it get any closer? 45-45% each and anita vogel is live from las vegas today, a lot of folks wonder can harry reid survive, he's been on the stump saying, i sure can. what is happening? good morning there. >> reporter: good morning, bill, well, certainly, it is a tight race and about the most watched in the country.
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and i had a chance to sit down and chat with senator reid about the issue, and he certainly is very vocal in calling his opponent too extreme for nevada when it comes to things like the desire to transition out of social security, and into a more privatized system and also, the desire to reduce certain federal agencies, and like the departments of education and energy, to state level energies and senator reid says the choice in this election is clear. >> why should voters in nevada choose to elect you? again? >> i guess, the easiest analogy is what i learned when i coached little league baseball. and when i played baseball. if you are a coach and want to take somebody out of the game, you should put somebody in just as good, if not better than the person you take out. >> reporter: as for sharron angle, she is blaming harry reid for the high unemployment rate here, 14%, and she says reid's relationship with the president and house speaker nancy pelosi is a bit too cozy, and, the reason in her opinion, senator
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reid is in danger of losing his seat is because voters here don't like his policies, and they don't like his promoting of the health care bill and the stimulus plan and a bank bailout. >> it is a powerful position they feel has been abused, and, they want someone who represents them, who will listen to them. and, who will go and not play that politics as usual game. >> reporter: and reid says he understands when the president's popularity ratings tumble a little bit as they have and it rubs off on him, but, he also said he thinks that rubbed off on any incumbents, even republicans. bill: there is big money, coming from outside that state. who is spending the money, anita? >> reporter: there is a lot of money coming in, we know sharron angle has had a lot of support from the tea party express organization from out of state and g.o.p. strategist carl rove through the nonprofit group, crossroads gps is spending money and they spent $1 million on an
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ad on tv and sharron angle says that money and the ad was unsolicited but her campaign will take it. senator reid says he believes people in this state need know karl rove and the g.o.p. are spending big money here and at the end of the day believes those ads are destructive to nevada. bill? bill: anita, thanks, on a race we'll all be watching, one of the best in country, speaking of senator reid, he says don't blame me for nevada's unemployment, one of the highest in the country, he says he's doing everything he can in washington and later in the hour, when it comes to tracking all of these people, who have given up looking for work or are under employed and a lower-paying job, how do you track them? it is a big part of our economy, our bya segment, because you asked coming up in a few moments with eric bolling, because, martha... money rocks. martha: money rocks, indeed it does, and it talks and eric will be here doing that in a few minutes and in the meantime a federal court just releasing shocking fbi surveillance video, in a new york terrorism trial.
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the footage from early last year. it shows and fbi informant meeting with four men and they are accused of plotting to bomb two synagogues and shoot down military planes, look at this meeting. in the kitchen and in the car, shows the defendants allegedly testing a nonworking shoulder launch missile in a moment and the defense claims the men were not capable of carrying out those attacks on their own and, before that, looks like something you see in the movies and that is real, comes from the fbi surveillance tapes. bill: something that i'm sure there's a lot more to the story and we'll check it out for you and look into that, president obama, in the meantime, might lose his right-hand man and the white house, chief of staff, rahm emanuel, reportedly eyeing a new job that would take him far away from washington and far away from the white house. martha: lots to chew over there, and we'll do that in a moment. four stolen cars, two robberies and one wild end to a cross-country crime spree, wait until you see this. bill: and the video meltser heart. two dozen homes destroyed --
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martha: a hot story, political story of the day, he's called it one of his aspiration and white
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house chief of staff, rahm emanuel may be eyeing a new job, in his home town of chicago. after 22 years, richard daley made a surprise decision really to step down, and we're learning rahm emanuel will head to chicago in the next few days, this was already on the calendar for fund-raising events and he'll be going back there and you can bet he'll be asked a lot of question, senior white house advisor david axelrod weighed in on this, this morning. >> a talented, extraordinarily talented guy with all the skill sets to be a great mayor of chicago and has a love and passion for the city that would be helpful. as mayor of chicago, as essential as mayor of chicago but he has a lot of responsibilities here, and, he has a tough decision to make, and he'll in due course make the decision. martha: well, there you go, alan colmes is the host of the radio show "the alan colmes show. >> translation they're looking for a replacement for rahm emanuel for chief of staff and support him for the next mayor of chicago... martha: might as well be campaigning for him there and he
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said, he has huge personality, and great for the job and has a passion for the city of chicago and if he wanted -- >> and here's the door to the white house... martha: he could have said there's a lot of possibilities here and we don't have anything to say. what do you make of that. >> obviously there was a summit and the president probably said, here's what you can say and they dieded to give him our blessing to go and pursue it and, by the way, what a coincidence, happened to be going to chicago, on a previously scheduled trip. martha: agreed, and here's what fascinates me. there were so many stories written and we talked about the inside debate that goes on at the white house. rahm emanuel, at the time, during health care reform was pushing for a little bit more moderate version of health care, and stay away from the public option and a number of issues where they were on separate sides of the fence and also a suggestion that he didn't want the president to talk about the mosque and is he saying you know what? i'm out of here. >> no, it is a job he's always wanted and thank goodness i can finally get out of here and we know, he wanted to be mayor of
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chicago and the confluence of events, however, seems to be favorable to him at this point. martha: indeed it does and who do you see taking over for him. >> i don't know. i don't know, i'm not sure. i'm not sure. i don't know. martha: valerie jarrett? has been tossed around. >> could be. could be, i have no clue. martha: who would you like to see? >> valerie jarrett would probably be a very good choice, you owe? look, rahm emanuel had a good relationship -- they got a lot done with him, health care done and had to be pragmatic and compromised and pushed off the progressives and i would have liked to have seen a public option but the first 18 months, wall street reform and public option and stimulus and talking about another stimulus an stimulus, how can the republicans say no? they'll say, we don't like tax cuts and if they find a say to say no, they'll truly be the party of no. martha: that will be the political discussion and there are things republicans would be in favor of. >> you'd think, right? but obama is doing it, so i'm not sure it can be the case. martha: we know the game has been played that way on both
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sides in many of these situationse and peter orszag saying if you want to get out of the way, of the recovery, it would be a good idea to leave even the top echelon of the tax cuts in place, it is good for small businesses. >> he said the compromise, leave them in place and in two years do away with all of the bush tax cuts and he says compromise and leave it in place and do away with all of them. martha: the next two years is crucial, a lot can change and we can sink or rise. >> president obama is mischaracterized as saying he wants to raise tax, he wants to rescind the taxes to 1-2% of this copulation. martha: the population spends one out of every three dollars in the country and that population does a huge amount of the hiring in this country, including the small business owners, and, that can't be -- can't be pooh-poohed. >> and they are already spend it, and the money they'll... martha: really.
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>> not be -- >> really! they are spending the money -- >> the money they'll have in their pockets, they'll get, they'll be taking out of their pocket is not money they'll be spendi spending any way. martha: a lot of small businesses are not hiring people because of the fact -- >> i disagree, it is because of lack of demand and what robert rice said yesterday in his column, we ought to have an exemption of the payroll tax up to $20,000 and do it that way instead of tax breaks for the rich which will not do much for the economy and supply side has proven it did not work well. martha: we could go on and on, thank you very much, we'll do it again, soon! good to see you, alan. bill: the coffee is not even cold! martha: not overnight keeled. bill: when will these guys learn, you can run but can't hide and in the end see how this one turns out? and it was unique and harry reid making another eyebrow-raising comment. about the economy. remember this one from february? >> men don't have jobs. women don't have jobs, either,
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but women aren't abusive most of the people, men when they are out of work, tend to be abusive. bill: what did senator reid say this time?
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bill: here reid saying don't blame me for the bad economy and laying the blame at the feet of the former president bush at the feet of wall street executives and foreign oil prices, and adding he's doing every in his power to get americans back to work, unemployment an issue back home in nevada. the state has america's highest jobless rate, according to our research team, 14% or higher since the month of may, right up there with michigan. because you asked, via twitter, sharon-dipity writes how do they track the number of people under employed or gave up looking and dron dropped out of the job market. great question for eric bolling, of money rocks and the fox business network. >> great question. there are 7 types of workers and the bureau of labor statistics, the government number, what they do is called the household survey and they've literally picked up the phone and randomly dialed and dial and dial and dial and say what is your
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employment status, and where are you and, the three types of people out there, billie, those seeking employment who don't have a job, those are the unemployment and the discouraged workers who have -- want a job and looked for a job the last 12 months and gave up because they feel there is no way to gait job and they are not counted, and then there is the marginally employed, those people are technically underemployed, bill and that comes from, if you are used to working, the 40-hour week and for some reason your employer says, you know what, we'll give you 25 hours this week or 30 hours this, week, those are the under employed and unfortunately the number has gone up and up and up and sitting now 16.8%, 26 million people. bill: and how many million americans. >> just under 26 million americans are underemployed. bill: you are looking for a job, six months down the road, and, man when will i work again, that is when you fall into the discouraged category and you say, there is a group that actually makes phone calls, to try and figure out what the
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number is. >> exactly how they do it. bill: how do you feel and not feel. >> exactly and they extrapolate based on how many phone calls they made and how many are discouraged and underemployed and come up with the stat and by the way, bill, here's the reason: the 19 weeks, the 36 weeks, mr. obama came into office, it was 19 weeks you stayed on unemployment benefits, now it is up to a whopping -- record, all-time high, 36 weeks and, partly has to do with the discouraged, the under employed and, also, when you are allowed 99 weeks of unemployment benefits, you tend to stay on unemployment benefits. bill: the category of americans, we don't refer to enough, and, some of the leading economists say our unemployment rate could stay high 5 to 10 years and that is stunning, catch eric on fox business networks, a show called "money rocks" week nights, 8:00 eastern time on the network network. thank you, eric, you have a question you want answered, e-mail the form of a question, because you asked, bya, the e-mail is hemmer@foxnews.com and
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twitter@billhemmer. all it takes. martha: martha from new jersey. bill: writes the following... again, she writes... and again... martha: always asking the same thing, all right, soaring at 35,000 feet and all of a sudden, complete silence. every piece of equipment dead as a door nail. what do you do? two heros, rewrote the book, folks. and, what a sign represents. original steel from the columns of the world trade center have now returned home, back to ground zero. weaving a piece of the pass into the future of lower manhattan. this is a very big moment and, today, the rise of freedom is beginning. shepard smith will show us what he found happening at ground zero, today. >> you'll come here and approach the memorial pool, and you will have these massive waterfalls,
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and the sound of the fall water, and have the 400 trees surround you, and have the names of the victims in front of you. it will feel like a separate, special place.
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bill: 10:30 in new york, top stories in "america's newsroom," the president has now -- is in the winning state of ohio and will stump for democrats vowing to keep their seats in the house and senate and republicans eyeing four key congressional races there and the governor's mansion in the buckeye state and bp spreading the blame today. an internal report saying several companies contributed to the catastrophic blowout in the gulf including transocean and halliburton, what it says in the report today. and fierce winds pushing flames through the city of detroit, two dozen homes destroyed and dozens homeless, and, wind gusts knocking power out to thousands. hundreds of thousands of customers in the motor city. 10:30. here's martha.
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martha: rising from the ashes, nine years after the day that literally we all remember, a day that changed the world for all of us, in america, the world trade center site, 16 acres of vacant, yet hallowed ground since september 11th, now, reaching toward the sky, once again. as memorials and skyscrapers are shaking shape down there, 70-foot columns from the twin towers themselves return to ground zero today and yesterday, as building blocks, the centerpieces for a 9/11 museum and progress, finally, many would say, after a lengthy struggle for healing and harmony. >> though we have had delays and unfortunately, we have had conflicts of opinions, we are now, we believe, on the road to a very great success. martha: something session on fox news, shepard smith joins us,
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glad to have you here, great to see you. >> it is an exciting project and this week we're all reminded, again about what happened on september 11th. and, when a handful of radical islamic terrorists attacked the country. even nine years later, everybody has a story about where we were, and how we found out and what it means to us. those stories, all the more visceral among people who had personal connections to the trade center. men, women who lost loved ones or coworkers or friends. and, we'll hear from some of these people in a moment and, after a long delay, the new buildings are finally going up. and, for the past several months, fox news has had special access at the site, our ceases is the rise of freedom and began last night on fox report and documenting each step, of the construction until the hours are fully built years from now and the four new towers will reshape the new york skyline and one of them will eventually be thetaum e -- tallest building of the nation, in the memorial plaza with two waterfalls marking the
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footprints of where the world trade center towers once stood. we bring you chapter one now, the story of the men and women retaking the sky floor by floor in this rise of freedom. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> their height and prominence on the new york city landscape, such tall, slender buildings, an amazing im prints on the skyline. >> these windows we have to do by hand. >> this is window washer, rocco in october of 2000. >> manhattan! i can see upstate new york from
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here. connecticut! that's funny, yes! let's go up. >> he loved the view. >> this is the youngest of his three children. >> i am very happy. 69 years old, it is time to have the grandchildren. >> when my father became a grandfather was a huge, huge joy. >> another plane, just flew into the second tower. >> a blast, explosion, we looked up... >> god help the victims and the families... >> united airlines with 45 people total, two miles from the pentagon. and you can see, the smoke billowing up from the building. >> it has to be deliberate, folks. some of the key suspects, come to mind, usama bin laden... >> i called my mom and she said,
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she said, daddy is okay. you know, i got off the phone and he said he was on the 105th floor with 2, 300 people and we're all in god's hands, he said. >> life took a long time to... how can i explain it? >> this is the street level, obviously, and there is much more below. >> right, there is much more below. the 7 stories between -- basically we are standing and where we will be going to bed rock. >> joe daniels is the president and ceo of the national september 11th memorial and museum. the world trade center site is 16 acres. a museum and memorial will cover 8 acres, and, scheduled to open september 11th, 2011.
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images of the memorial draw the eye to waterfalls, that mark the twin towers' original footprint. >> how do you see the experience for people who come here. >> i think, that this 8-acre memorial plaza is meant to be and will be a really separate space within the city. you will come here, you will approach the memorial pool, you will have these massive waterfalls, and both the sound of the falling water, which is a huge, 52,000 gallons of water per minute, to have the sound, to have the 400 trees surround you and the names of the victims in front of you, it will feel like a very separate, special place. >> daniels was originally a lawyer, for the memorial and museum and in '06 he was asked to take the reins. >> the controversy surrounding what is built here and how is no secret. >> you called it a battlefield
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promotion. this at times, the struggle to deal with all the entities and competing forces, what has it felt like? a real battle. >> it still does in a way. there are so many stakeholders that have legitimate things to say about the site, and of course the family members, absolutely. and something like 40% of all of the family members, 1100 families, never got their remains back to bury and that is what the site is. >> they never recovered his remains, that is one of the hardest things, once i finish the memorial i'll feel more of a closeness, i guess you could say. to dad, to my father. >> one of the women i interviewed works for the port authority in the world trade center. had her walkie-talkie and talked to me at the beginning of her interview, how she heard rocco on the walkie-talkie and she couldn't get his name out, without crying.
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>> when i see the walkie-talkie, i think of rocco. >> amy weinstein records oral histories and gathers the museum's physical artifacts. >> we hope to record oral histories with a family member or friend of everyone who was killed. when we acquire a wallet that was returned to a family member, we have a responsibility to care for that, in perpetuity, in the public trust, so as long as our civilization exists, it will be here. >> so this is the original wall, the day of 9/11, played a rouge hoe in that it held back the hudson from flooding lower man mann. >> the river it right there. >> it runs through battery park and the water comes up against it. >> one complexity the museum finds itself up against how to present a event that is not history. >> whether the slurry wall or the first responder vehicles so damaged by the collapse, that
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level of realness needs to be here, in order to tell what actually happened. >> this will be a difficult experience for a lot of people. >> absolutely, and things like the jumpers, while we'll show them, we'll basically warn the visitors that if there are certain things they don't want to see they will be able to avoid the horrific images but that is, you know, the truth of what happened on that day. >> in 1987, i remember looking up to the twin towers and saying to myself, wouldn't it be fantastic to own those buildings someday. >> larry silverstein's company, silverstein properties acquired the lease to the world trade center in 2001. >> we closed it 6 weeks before 9/11 and of course life changed for everybody. the impact on our lives is nothing short of extraordinary. >> you knew so many people in that building. >> oh, yes, many. it became obvious to me that the terrorists sought to destroy our way of life.
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this was an attack on america and not to rebuild these buildings, would be to give the terrorists exactly what they were looking for. >> the process of rebuilding has been anything but smooth. it is a stark comparison to the pentagon, just one year after flight 77 slammed into the side, killing 184 people, the building was repaired. >> over the last nine years there's a lot of cooks in this kitchen. >> it is the challenge of major proportions. dealing with four governors of the state of new york, soon to be a 5th, dealing with five governors of the state of new jersey, each governor has his own agenda and so, we have been faced with many challenges here. not the least of which is change of political leadership. >> but as of july, the ground has been broken for every office building planned. one world trade center is being built by the port authority of new york and new jersey. and, it's on its way up.
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the broadcast antenna will reach 1776 feet. to the east, tower two will stand 1,270 feet. moving south from tower 2, is tower three, the 71-story building will rise 1140 feet. today, work is being done in the bed rock for the foundations of two and three, but tower four is taking shape and its construction will not stop until it is 975 feet tall and there are 2,000 people on the job today but the number is expected to climb to 10,000 the site will also be home to a 1,000-seat performing arts center and a transit hub designed to look like a bird, taking flight. >> the trade center is beginning to rise, and it is very emotional. >> describe the emotion, if you would. >> a matter of a few years you'll have these six
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architectural gems look at and say, my god, isn't that fantastic. >> come on the beam... >> cedar rapids iowa native megan folkman is a structural engineer for leslie e. robinson associates and it is her job to marry the fantastic visions of an architect with the realities of physics. >> right here we have one of the tower columns, and this column will rise all the way up to the top of the building and you can see we have quite large ribar here and you see something like this with form, that will encase the perimeter of the column. and after that, the concrete is placed inside and they vibrate the concrete and strip the form. you see here, the column, we've done the reinforcement and, inspection of this and formed it and poured the concrete and let it set and then remove the form and that is what you will see here, tower four, is just under a thousand feet and you will have these four columns, on t
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perimeter that will run to the top of the building. >> designed and built to a standard, never before seen. >> and building number 7 this is headquarters for silverstein properties. >> here, completely different from the other one, certainly wider and a lot more security. >> you look at the stairs, they seem to be inordinately wide. they are, they are 20% wider than code requires and the reason is what we learned on 9/11 and that is, fire responders coming up the stairs, are impeded by people who want to come down the stairs. unlike the twin towers, that were erected, from the original trade center, which was secured, and protected by wallboard or plaster board, on the exterior, what we have here, are
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low-bearing walls. walls that are two feet in thickness, and are impregnated with 70 tons of steel reinforcing parts per floor and makes the shield walls and core of the building impregnable. >> and first responders, we see the black poles with the yellow stripes along the side and down here and there is another one back here, these are all for communications, for fire and police. >> well, you also have an addition, you have the sprinkler system, see the red pipe, it is a sprinkler system, that is designed to work under any circumstances. because, it is within the core wal walls. on 9/11 the plane sheered through the sprinkler system and these are all incorporated into the buildings and built to a totally different standards than has ever existed . >> you can't get back what was lost that day but if we can move forward and rebuild, i am glad
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to be a part of that. >> you love this, don't you. >> it is great. i feel it's an honor and a privilege to work on this. ♪ ♪ >> i'm sure now they'll do something different, how they operate the window-washing and i would take the job just to enjoy the view. that he loved, so much. >> it is a spectacular place, and, what has happened over the past 12 to 18 months, at ground zero, is really quite astounding. the next time you visit new york, you will be able to see it. it has risen from lower manhattan. coming up later this week on the fox report, many young men and women join ted the military aft the attacks of 9/11 and some of them paid a heavy price and we'll meet some of them as they make their first visit to ground zero -- wow, this is going
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well... the attacks to inspired them to serve and check out our progress, rebuilding at ground zero at foxnews.com/freedom. you will also finds exclusive content there, that you will not see on tv and you can speak with the world trade center workers, on the site, who are there today, 2000 of them, send your questions and comments, once again, foxnews.com/freedom. it is quite a place. martha: incredible story, shepard, thank you very much, to you and everybody who worked on it, and, it is a great insight into what is going on down there and the people who are working on it. it is inspiring and i don't think any of us will know what it feels like until we actually stand in there. >> you should go. it is something to see, after all of these years of watching this cavernous hole in our cities, suddenly finally something is happening. martha: thank you very much, shepard. shepard smith, see you later. bill:... big blue spotlights that rise from lower manhattan on 9/11. well done, shepard. martha: every year, yeah. bill: 14 minutes now before the hour and at the speed of sound, soaring 6 miles high.
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>> i'm jenna lee and we have a big show coming up on happening now including the president going to ohio, our economic panel breaks down the president's new initiatives and as you, a man fires warning shots at gang members on his property, coming to harm him and his children, and now he's the one in trouble and will be here to tell us his story. >> in the west, 12,000 wild horses, being rounded up, detractors say it is cruel, the government says there are simply too many of them, we'll gets into the controversy and a 23-year-old manicurist, picked up and she said she was strip-searched and held overnight in jail, why? a case of mistaken identity and police say they did her a favor. we'll get into the continued various when we talk to her on happening now. martha: thank you, jon and jen, and the cross-county crime speed we've told you about ended in a high speed car chase and two suspects allegedly carjacking a man outside an oklahoma hospital. and, then they robbed a
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convenience store, and stole another car, and after two more carjackings and a robbery, these guys were busy, they split up, and one suspect led police on a chasten a white holds mobile and speeds over 100 miles per hour and ditched the handgun and the police recovered it and, it all ended with guns drawn and both suspects are in custody, word to the wise... that is how these things always work, always get their man and william. bill: secretary of state hillary clinton making remarks moments ago, with a strong warning about the u.s. growing debt. right now, we tip the money scales at $13.4 trillion. james rosen is on the story disc in d.c. what did she say? >> reporter: bill, the real news here, this was built as a major speech by secretary clinton's aides at the council on foreign relations in washington and the real news came during the question and answer session, when secretary clinton was asked about the council on foreign relations president, richard hoff, about america's $13 trillion debt, which now
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accounts for an estimated 93% of our gdp, keep in mind, secretary clinton has just spent the bulk of her 40 minutes of prepared remarks, talking about the reinvigorated american leadership across the globe in the 21st century, and hailing it as a new american moment, but when she turn to the subject of our national debt, he spoke about it as a national security threat and described how the united states is, quote, losing the ability to chart our own destiny and projecting weakness across the globe. >> our rising debt levels poses a national security threat. and it poses a national security threat in two ways. it undermines or capacity to act, in our own interests, and, it does constrain us where constraint may be undesirable. and, it also sends a message of weakness, internationally. i mean, it is very troubling to me, that we are losing the ability not only to chart our
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own destiny... >> reporter: losing the ability to chart our own destiny, she said and also added to that losing the leverage that comes from the enormously effective economic engine of the united states and one other quick note, the prepared text of secretary clinton's remarks had her saying the u.n. sanctions recently played on iran are the most comprehensive ever and in her delivery he omitted the word "ever" and the quote, many other nations placing their own sanctions on iran, secretary clinton omitted the word, "many" and mentioned other nations. bill: is this the highest ranking member of the administration who talked about that? that is frank. >> it's outside of her lane, she's not the treasury secretary and condoleezza rice when she was secretary of state, was, dealing with energy issues and here, she has to deal with our debt. bill: breaking news out of washington now, martha, what is
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